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she doesn't go inactive really, according to her she just kind of waits around in the mindscape building

4:00 AM

no when I go in the mindscape there are usually small weird changes

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nothing I would like

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and she is often just there

4:00 AM

somewhere else. doing something simple

When I was young, I was telling my host that I do things in wl. But I didn't. He expected me to be active in the background because people claim their tulpas are.

hmm

4:02 AM

I don't know

4:02 AM

I really don't

4:02 AM

I could randomely spot check her

4:02 AM

but then she's just doing something sad

I am not telling you that your case must be the same. Just be careful with interpretation of your experiences. And keep in mind your expectations affect your tulpa.

'wonderland changes' are also extremely easy to do on a near-instantaneous basis, seeing as it is imagination.

4:04 AM

If you expect changes, there will be changes.

I don't really expect them, but that is a goog point

In fact, even if you don't expect any changes there will likely be changes, as your mind isn't likely to reproduce it exactly the same every time.

I miss our old house, it's still there but this damned city is just a lot

Remember, the 'wonderland' isn't an actual persistent location.

that's also a good point

It is an actively imagined setting.

our old one was, because it was simple

4:05 AM

white trash looking but simple

At the very least, do keep that much in mind.

feelsbad

4:05 AM

I will

it can persist, if you practice at it

Yes.

I did check on her earlier today though, she was in an iHop sad and alone drinking a coffee or something

The more you practice and solidify a setting, the more consistent it is likely to remain.

hmm

4:07 AM

well we ought to spend more 1 on 1 time together

another question bites the dust

4:18 AM

okay so second tulpa, when and why did you decide for another one?

I only have the one and hope it stays that way, but many people just got walk ins and ran with them

I planned for two but only have the one right now.

well that's kinda backwards from the norm

Yes, that is... odd. (edited)

Thought I'd want two because I'm bisexual, but Cille's unsure about more changes to the system, at least until she gets fully situated.

What would your sexual orientation have to do with how many tulpas you have?

Perhaps they intend to use their tulpas as romantic companions?

Hm, I'm not sure that's how bisexuality works.

That is rather odd, yes.

Well... from what I'm told bisexuality is being interested in either of the normal genders, so a tulpa of each of those two genders would fulfill both desires if need be

Either way, I would recommend creating one to a certain point before starting another.

Yeah, doing multiples at a time seems questionable if you haven't done it before

I also planned more than one tulpa and currently have one, but that will most likely change in the future (edited)

Meanwhile mine just happened without me even knowing they existed (edited)

It is a relatively new thing for me to hear, that hosts plan for more than one and must wait for the other.

I'm hardly an expert on their formation, to be entirely fair

3:07 AM

Still trying to figure out how mine came about

@[Inactive] Please do not shitpost. This is not appropriate for here. This is not the server, but this is certainly not the channel.

Alright, I will not shitpost in this server. I'm sorry~

smol question

6:13 AM

can tulpas get butterflies?

What do you mean by "butterflies"?

yknow hoooww

6:14 AM

feeling in your stomach

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kinda thing

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"talkin to your crush kinda thing"

they can even get pregnant with tulpa from another system :v

so... i take that as a yes?

Well, yes, tulpa can get a crush on someone.

welp i got my first emotional response then!

6:16 AM

yay~

6:16 AM

and it was butterflies

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o.O

Oh.

6:29 AM

Those "butterflies in your stomach" feelings happen to just about anyone, yes.

6:29 AM

Nervousness happens.

well i didnt see why it would be me

6:31 AM

so my tulpa was it i spose

I would advise against making assumptions without solid reason to draw that conclusion.

hmmm how would you 100% know its tulpa then

once your tulpa is vocal you can ask them yourself, until then I don't think there really is a way to know for certain

but dont i need to get some kind of emotional response before vocality?

not necessarily, but I'm sure it helps

You should always assume it's the tulpa.

No, you do not "need" to get any specific type of response first.

6:40 AM

Please don't assume that everything the brain generates is the tulpa, goodness.

6:40 AM

You don't need to know it in an absolutely certain sense - 100% certainty is essentially impossible in any context.

thats what ive been reading - Tulpabug

However, in cases where it isn't clear, try to consider what aspects of a response make it more likely to be the tulpa relative to making it less likely. Additionally, do keep personal biases in mind.

6:42 AM

The brain generates all kinds of feelings, including your own - which you may think are strange at the time.

6:43 AM

Making assumptions leads to inaccuracy, and has lead people to make "tulpas" they later realized were hollow projections of what they hoped to get out of making a tulpa.

6:43 AM

It might take longer and the tulpa may be annoyed with you if you miss some things they say, but you can also freely explain that you aren't making assumptions because you want to speak with them rather than some projection of your own thoughts.

6:45 AM

That said, if you aren't looking to necessarily make a tulpa, but just make some thing that you can call a tulpa regardless, feel free to make all the assumptions you want. You might make an actual tulpa or you might not, but it will certainly be faster.

6:46 AM

And then you won't have to deal with the terrible and awful small annoyance of explaining your reasons for not making unfounded assumptions.

so what should i do instead

let things progress at their own rate, and keep an open mind

Hah. That was a lot of text, but it did include some advice on how to proceed instead.

6:49 AM

In short: Think critically, don't make assumptions - try to reason out how likely it is that it is the tulpa, in cases where it isn't already clear. Not knowing is a perfectly reasonable option when the goal is accuracy. (edited)

so if its likely tulpa

If you are concerned that the tulpa will be annoyed that you missed something they said, you could always simply say that you thought it might have been them, but can't be sure enough and want to be sure you are actually speaking to them.

what then

Then you can act accordingly.

6:51 AM

My only point in the end is that skepticism is fine, as long as it isn't a blanket assumption that no responses are them unless it is extremely clear. Assumptions are the problem - skepticism and doubt without assumptions are fine.

so just balance

Yes.

6:52 AM

A principled approach.

6:52 AM

In general, an application of critical thinking and striving for accuracy. The goal is to make a tulpa, not to make a tulpa as fast as possible.